Post by Elaine on Sept 23, 2008 10:09:07 GMT
An Overview.......
[termoninology: indirect rein = hindquarter yield = move the hindquarters sideways]
4 days of lovely weather in Sussex. We had six horses....
FRIDAY MORNING GROUP TALK
Goals for each person:
Transitions especially downwards transitions.
Feel, relaxation - arab rides better in a string, possibly because rider requests them to do things. Perhaps in bridle, which is not as good, its to do with rider 'asking' horse to do stuff which is different.
- slowness
- impulsion with softness (mini fresian)
- human confidence and using the bit better
- soft circles with impulsion
- canter work
Story about a German horse:
Steve was riding this horse, as rider wanted Steve to improve horses brakes at the gallop. So wanted a good gallop to halt.
Steve worked on indirect rein (using one rein at a time to take power out of hind quarters nad get them to drift over sideways a bit) on both sides in walk, trot and canter.
As Steve was working on this in canter, guy shouted over: 'Thats not a gallop you know!'
Steve replied: 'I know!'
Went into gallop, picked up the two reins for a halt, and horse came straight down into amazing sliding stop. It was cos of the all the indorect rein work he'd done.
One rein indirection rein stops on both sides = put them together = sliding stop. Think guy was quite impressed.
SAT MORNING GROUP TALK
Watched cowboy dressage dvd. Very good. Before you want to move the FQs, sit on horse and move your body weight a little from right to left to prepare horse for the FQ move... when weight is on the other front foot, you can ask the front foot without much weight on it to move.
SUN MORNING GROUP TALK
If there is something scary, your horse may want to spin his body away from it so a quick turn so your horse is heading away from the scary thing and then bolt. This is not good. fast spin = you might fall off over the shoulder if you get left behind.
Instead, no matter what you do keep staring at the scary thing and kepe your horses head looking at the scary thing. Dont let him turn. If he wants to backup quickly thats fine. (its actually good - if you make horse stand still in this situation you're likely to get a rear or buck, or some part of the horse going up. You dont want this)
Keep using indirect rein (HQ yield) to make sure horses body is always facing towards scary thing then let him back away as much as he likes, you're less likely to fall off then.
Horse standing still + scared = trouble.
Going down hill = lean back
Going up hill - lean forwards
Going on hills - get the HQ tucked in under the horse. Then you've got brakes when you're going downhill.
Q: How did I get a soft horse? Do my hands always have to be
soft?
A; No they will not always be soft. If the horse is soft/not leaning, you've got soft hands. If the horse leans, then bump one rein up till he stops leaning to correct this. Then when horse light again in your hands, you can have soft hands again. Correct what you don't want. Reward what you do want.
MONDAY MORNING GROUP TALK
Q: How do you slow down a fast canter?
A: Use bend. Steve can feel a horse getting strighter before it starts to get faster. So when you feel it get straighter, introduce a little bend.
If your horse is leaning (eg in trot in long grass) stop & backup.
If you want to get horses attention, rein changes (turn and go opposite way) is very good.
It's very hard to change your muscle menory. Eg. one person said out loud, while handling her horse, "I am going to step forwards!" Then she stepped backwards. Its hard to change things you've done for years.
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Young horse story....Steve started this big horse and had it fine going walk, trot canter in round pen. Owner took it home and it bucked him off. Brougth it back, told Steve. Steve rode it in round pen again, again perfect walk, trot, canter. Then took it out in field and put foot in stirrup and it bucked.
So he rang up Pat Parelli. What would he do with the horse? Pat said 'gallop him before you ride him'. Steve said 'but I did canter him'. Pat said 'no, you need to gallop him'. Steve said 'it was a pretty fast canter!' Pat said 'no, you need to gallop him!'.
So Steve galloped him, and horse never bucked again. Some horses are more introverted, and bottle stuff up a bit. Makgin them gallop tends to get that sort of stuff out. Particularly warmbloods its very useful.
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I'm going to do another post with a brief overview/list of some of the exercises people were doing coming soon........... ok here they are: irishnhsociety.proboards41.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=usefulinformation&thread=501&page=1
[termoninology: indirect rein = hindquarter yield = move the hindquarters sideways]
4 days of lovely weather in Sussex. We had six horses....
- Mini fresian cob doing wonderful light soft ridden work
- Quarter horse who was heavy on the forehand now getting lighter and lighter
- An incredible arab with gorgeous ridden work
- Warmblood who we same glimpses of the airs above ground with...
- Grey horse who last year was difficult to control in field, now doing gorgeous controlled light ridden work in huge field, walk, trot & canter and climbing hills
- Going from scared horse who paniced and tried to escape away to a confident super dressage horse..
FRIDAY MORNING GROUP TALK
Goals for each person:
Transitions especially downwards transitions.
Feel, relaxation - arab rides better in a string, possibly because rider requests them to do things. Perhaps in bridle, which is not as good, its to do with rider 'asking' horse to do stuff which is different.
- slowness
- impulsion with softness (mini fresian)
- human confidence and using the bit better
- soft circles with impulsion
- canter work
Story about a German horse:
Steve was riding this horse, as rider wanted Steve to improve horses brakes at the gallop. So wanted a good gallop to halt.
Steve worked on indirect rein (using one rein at a time to take power out of hind quarters nad get them to drift over sideways a bit) on both sides in walk, trot and canter.
As Steve was working on this in canter, guy shouted over: 'Thats not a gallop you know!'
Steve replied: 'I know!'
Went into gallop, picked up the two reins for a halt, and horse came straight down into amazing sliding stop. It was cos of the all the indorect rein work he'd done.
One rein indirection rein stops on both sides = put them together = sliding stop. Think guy was quite impressed.
SAT MORNING GROUP TALK
Watched cowboy dressage dvd. Very good. Before you want to move the FQs, sit on horse and move your body weight a little from right to left to prepare horse for the FQ move... when weight is on the other front foot, you can ask the front foot without much weight on it to move.
SUN MORNING GROUP TALK
If there is something scary, your horse may want to spin his body away from it so a quick turn so your horse is heading away from the scary thing and then bolt. This is not good. fast spin = you might fall off over the shoulder if you get left behind.
Instead, no matter what you do keep staring at the scary thing and kepe your horses head looking at the scary thing. Dont let him turn. If he wants to backup quickly thats fine. (its actually good - if you make horse stand still in this situation you're likely to get a rear or buck, or some part of the horse going up. You dont want this)
Keep using indirect rein (HQ yield) to make sure horses body is always facing towards scary thing then let him back away as much as he likes, you're less likely to fall off then.
Horse standing still + scared = trouble.
Going down hill = lean back
Going up hill - lean forwards
Going on hills - get the HQ tucked in under the horse. Then you've got brakes when you're going downhill.
Q: How did I get a soft horse? Do my hands always have to be
soft?
A; No they will not always be soft. If the horse is soft/not leaning, you've got soft hands. If the horse leans, then bump one rein up till he stops leaning to correct this. Then when horse light again in your hands, you can have soft hands again. Correct what you don't want. Reward what you do want.
MONDAY MORNING GROUP TALK
Q: How do you slow down a fast canter?
A: Use bend. Steve can feel a horse getting strighter before it starts to get faster. So when you feel it get straighter, introduce a little bend.
If your horse is leaning (eg in trot in long grass) stop & backup.
If you want to get horses attention, rein changes (turn and go opposite way) is very good.
It's very hard to change your muscle menory. Eg. one person said out loud, while handling her horse, "I am going to step forwards!" Then she stepped backwards. Its hard to change things you've done for years.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Young horse story....Steve started this big horse and had it fine going walk, trot canter in round pen. Owner took it home and it bucked him off. Brougth it back, told Steve. Steve rode it in round pen again, again perfect walk, trot, canter. Then took it out in field and put foot in stirrup and it bucked.
So he rang up Pat Parelli. What would he do with the horse? Pat said 'gallop him before you ride him'. Steve said 'but I did canter him'. Pat said 'no, you need to gallop him'. Steve said 'it was a pretty fast canter!' Pat said 'no, you need to gallop him!'.
So Steve galloped him, and horse never bucked again. Some horses are more introverted, and bottle stuff up a bit. Makgin them gallop tends to get that sort of stuff out. Particularly warmbloods its very useful.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I'm going to do another post with a brief overview/list of some of the exercises people were doing coming soon........... ok here they are: irishnhsociety.proboards41.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=usefulinformation&thread=501&page=1