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Post by intouch on Sept 14, 2009 21:53:09 GMT
Good post Dermot, you make some very relevant points.
It's great if you can learn enough about barefoot to start your young horses that way, but the fact is, most of us don't consider it an option till we have acquired a set of problem feet and tried everything else.
So while what you say would be great in an ideal world, as you well know, trimmers like yourself have to pick up the pieces and try to make the most of what you've got.
Not many people consider feeding for good hoof growth, either, till they find they've got a severe problem. It takes a while to find out where the problem is, and another 6 months for a good diet to reach the ground. I have very little faith in prepared feeds, and feel they and supplement companies are in it to get as much money from horse owners as possible. It's up to owners to learn as much about what suits their own horse, and not depend on commercial companies to "inform" them of the latest fashion in feeding.
Horse owning is a minefield, and so many well intentioned people with little "horsey" background are having to learn from their own mistakes.
It's great that people like you are around.
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Post by amanda1066 on Sept 16, 2009 8:56:41 GMT
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Post by mandy on Sept 17, 2009 13:03:34 GMT
I agree intouch... feeding extra and supplementing willy nilly must upset the natural balance. Of course commercial companies have a vested interest in us thinking we need more 'stuff'. We must be mindful of not falling prey to this in regards to lots of things. We underestimate the horses ability to forage for various bits and pieces in the hedgerows while they are grazing... of course they will devour any 'bucket of sweets' we provide! It is as much of a mindfield as we buy into...My thinking would be, keep it as natural as possible, your horse knows what it needs out in the field. And if you have to feed, if in doubt - LEAVE IT OUT!
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Post by Elaine on Nov 9, 2009 12:32:41 GMT
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Post by intouch on Nov 9, 2009 20:23:20 GMT
This is the trainer Jenny started with - she had almost qualified with him before she went to NZ, then when she came home, she transferred to EPAUK as they were working with LANTRA to establish standards. EPAUK originally trained with KC before some sort of parting of the ways. All very interesting, but gets a bit political.
Lesley
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Post by Elaine on Nov 17, 2009 12:36:10 GMT
Was in a shop in Dublin today, and met a guy who spotted the Irish horsemanship jacket, got talking & got the name of a good trimmer in Dublin who he uses... turns out it is TJ Whelan (old post about him below). Small world.
"Hi ya, we use TJ at our yard and he is fantastic and does a brilliant bare foot trim. The great thing about TJ is that he doesn't try to convince you to go back to shoes. He works with a lot of young horses. He pointed out conformation faults with my mares feet which I had never noticed before and he balances them out each visit for her. He charges €25 each time and we call him out every six weeks and we don't then need to do any trimming ourselves in between which is a real bonus. I know he does a lot of work in Cork (he is a Cork man) so you could give him a call and if he can't do it I am sure he could recommend someone. We got his name from the Master Farriers of Ireland. his number is 087 2280768. Hope this helps. "
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Post by sunfairy on Nov 22, 2009 22:23:31 GMT
Could we get a bit more information about the upcoming course in march about this subject?
What does the course in tale...
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Post by cooper69 on Mar 19, 2010 13:22:09 GMT
is this course with dan going ahead and are there any places left?
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Post by mariab on Mar 20, 2010 10:14:49 GMT
No its not going ahead sorry about that, did you not just do the course with Dermot?
If you did supplement that with the books and the great websites there are so many good ones out there, the course with Dan would have been a horse owners trim course so you can maintain them yourself after a professional has set them up.
If you run into trouble call one of us who have more experience, if you want to do a course and learn more you can do some on-line ones or you will have to go to UK to learn if you want more info get back to me.
MARIA
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Post by amanda1066 on Oct 26, 2010 16:08:48 GMT
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Post by zy on Oct 28, 2010 7:05:41 GMT
^^ that's the most informative site I've seen yet....thanks!
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Post by Elaine on Apr 12, 2011 20:45:58 GMT
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Post by amanda1066 on Jun 11, 2011 9:40:10 GMT
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Post by liamclancy on Aug 28, 2011 17:28:29 GMT
A barefoot trimmer was at Sean Fitzgibbons the other day and I took Ed along because he is still suffering from sore feet. The trimmer happened to be a lovely lady called Anja Koch from Kerry. Because Ed and I were new clients she very patiently spent over two and a half hours with us. I'm sure I learnt more about Ed's feet in those two hours than I have in the previous 5 years. We are now on a trimming regime which I'm very happy with and am confident we'll get over the tender foot problem. If anyone is interested in contacting Anja she has a website at www.holistic-hoof-and-horsecare.com or contact Sean as she intends to spend a full day at his place every 6 or 8 weeks. |
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Post by chevalfou on Mar 7, 2012 10:00:59 GMT
Natural hoof care for horse owners, weekend courses on Clare island, Co Mayo, 21st -22nd April 2012 (also 9th -10th June 2012) This tried and tested two day course covers the basic theory and practice of barefoot trimming. This is a practical workshop which includes demonstrations and hands on work with real horses! It is therefore only suitable for horse owners and people who regularly work with horses . By the end of this weekend course, you will have the knowledge and the confidence needed to keep your own horses hooves trimmed and healthy. If required, we will also look at techniques to deal with horses who have difficulties giving their feet. Cost is 180 euros and includes course notes, vegetarian lunch on both days and one night B&B. See ecofarm.ie/horses/barefoot.html or contact christophe(at)ecofarm.ie for more details |
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Post by amanda1066 on Mar 12, 2012 17:39:45 GMT
New barefoot forum for anyone interested. No affiliation to any particular trimming method but it is born out of the now closed UKNHCP forum.. phoenixhorse.myfastforum.org/index.phpliamclancy, I hope things are going well for you with your new trimmer. |
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Post by liamclancy on Mar 17, 2012 15:53:12 GMT
Thanks Amanda.
Anja has been brilliant. She had his feet wrapped for 3 months so I had to be very patient but when the wraps came off we rode 4 miles on rough ground with no issues. Fingers crossed he's flying it now.
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Post by amanda1066 on Mar 19, 2012 23:29:47 GMT
I've heard of quite a few horses really benefiting from wraps. Onwards and upwards. I'm doing the mineral supplementing battle atm as one of my horses has got stuck in her improvement following a hoof collapse last year after a period of 24/7 grazing. You have to learn to go with the flow a bit and develop detective skills.  |
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Post by amanda1066 on Sept 1, 2013 14:37:51 GMT
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