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Post by Elaine on Jan 18, 2008 9:00:32 GMT
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Post by intouch on Jan 18, 2008 20:10:48 GMT
Nice kid - good enough position and bags of confidence - but poor horse, over-bent and over-bitted, looks like he understands rollkur - manners to burn, though.
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Post by luckylocket on Jan 23, 2008 19:32:06 GMT
you dont know much about dressage do you intouch. that horse is certainly not being trained to rollkur i dont think you truly know what rollkur is. and hes not overbitted he is a high level school master who is being worked in an fei legal bridoon and weymouth.
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Post by intouch on Jan 23, 2008 22:33:18 GMT
Bless you LL, no insult intended - happily I am not that familiar with rollkur, maybe you yould take the opportunity to explain?
Lesley
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Post by lauradomenica on Jan 23, 2008 22:59:35 GMT
It never ceases to amaze at what a wonderful and tolerant amimal the horse is. It was truly amazing to see how this wonderful animal was filling in for the child. Gorgeous animal.
In my opinon the horse at no stage of the trot is "through" It is overbent and breaking in the third cervical vertebra. If you look closely you will see a break in the smooth line of the arch of the neck at this point and a split in the mane. It is a very common in dressage. This horse is just sporting a headset, but his back is not lifted and his hind legs not coming underhim as they could. I saw a lot of this in Holland when i lived there for six years.
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Post by luckylocket on Jan 24, 2008 16:36:15 GMT
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Post by moongirl on Jan 25, 2008 20:33:27 GMT
I wouldnt know whether that horse is trained to Rollkur or not because I am not experienced enough to tell, but I know enough to think that using rollkur to train a horse sounds really horrible and even cruel. I have just been learning a bit more about it on that site mentioned above and it made me really sad. It explains the reasons trainers and riders do it, but is actually anti- rollkur, and gives heaps of reasons why it isn't a good thing. The people that use those kind of training methods obviously care more about winning and thinking they look good than they do about their horses. They dont care about the pain and long term damage they are doing. All the horses in the pictures look really tense and frightened - not soft and relaxed like a well trained, responsive and willing horse should look. (which is what i'm aiming for with the help of this site)!
Michelle
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Post by intouch on Jan 25, 2008 22:52:48 GMT
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